Lily Ford, about Pacific Rim: Uprising, does that film really the sequel for 2013 film Pacific Rim (film) or stand-alone movie set in continuity that separate to 2013 film? I asked this due to pages in this wikia somewhat split between info from 2013 film and Uprising version in addition of some inconsistencies:
I previously had an image of Atticon from Breach Wars appearing on its page, I can understand why this was removed, considering it may not be canon. Breach Wars' designation of Categories for Kaiju in the game are canon, and Atticon's listed as a Category III Kaiju. I saw that Atticon's Category I had up on its page was also taken down, and was removed when I put it up yesterday as well. Why is that? This is true information.
I saw you just undo my contribution on Raijin page and it made me curious. Did I made some mistakes or adding misleading info on Raijin page? Or editing that page simply no longer needed? I just wondering.
If editing that page turned out no longer necessary, do you mind to protect (or rather lock) that page from further editing on my behalf? To tell the truth, I felt I might just vandalize it instead of helping.
There were some grammatical errors you either missed, some questionable descriptions ("neon glow" when talking about the phosphorescent glow of Raijin's blood/veins) and an unnecessary space placed between the biology subheading and the text, which isn't the most constructive edit a user can make. Other than that, the edit itself was solid. My primary aim was to just remove the space put between the subheading. It wasn't my intention to completely remove your edit.
Also, saying you might vandalize an article because of an edit rollback isn't the most helpful or smart thing a user can say when bring up an issue.
If I said something harsh or anything, I truly apologize about it. Just confused why someone deliberately undo my contribution on that page without examining new stuff I just add as some of them might things that everybody overlooked when watching Pacific Rim: Uprising. I genuinely trying to help and fully aware with my flaws (including the way I adding new stuffs that I at times hoping someone might seeing flaws I overlooked and fixed it), and to tell the truth, I also kind of new in this wikia and yet to fully understand a thing or two. Not to mention at times I misimpretating a thing or two about kaijus in spite of my fascination on them.
If I said something harsh again, I truly sorry about that.
ValorOmega has been complaining about you in Forums. Can you please help Community Central out and get rid of this prick and give him some closure? This man is in Denial and is asking to get unblocked.
Truthfully, I don't know what more I can do or say to that User. They're clearly doing it for the attention, nothing about their "tone" of text suggests that they're remotely serious about their position, they just want someone to pay attention to them.
I've asked the Wiki Staff to ban him from this Wiki as ValorOmega, but he keeps coming back with alternate accounts. His most recent one was blocked after editing the Guardian Bravo article.
I'm not even positive that his repeated harassment across multiple wiki's will actually motivate the Staff to globally block him from the entire Wiki website period.
The prologue of the film with Raleigh and Yancy is seven years into the war, which from 2013 (the Trespasser attack) is 2020. Five years after 2020, is 2025. The scene and the movie itself takes place in 2025.
Ah thanks, I was rewatching the scene to try find text (which I thought I saw before), but probs decided too early that there was no reference to the year before the text scrolled on screen. The problem here is, that UN talk would be after the war had ended, unless the Knifehead incident was in 2019. The earliest it could have been in 2020 is 1st of January, 5 years later (maximum) and it's the Mutavore attack. Even if Knifeheaf was 1st January 2020, that's still not making a lot of sense. The UN would be funding the PPDC for time, and there would be no need to contact Chau. Why does Raleigh say "5 years and 4 months" as well? It's easy to say bad writing, and Raeligh didn't mean that, but then the other events don't add up. Surely Knifehead had to be in 2019, because I'm seeing a lot of inconsistincies here. I've head the Knifehead 2019 argument before, but never considered the UN conference's date, which now makes things difficult to accept 2020 for Knifehead.
I've found that Trespasser is listed as a Category I Kaiju on Breach Wars. Atticon was listed as a Cat III, which makes sense considering it emerged in 2020 and the Cat system was in play at that time. For Trespasser, I have a few doubts though. I went ahead and added Atticon's Category III status on its page, but have left Trespasser for now. Stats could have been gathered for it's displacement, and I'm sure it could be categorised by 2035, especially considering it's likely some of its organic material may have been recovered. Because three nukes were needed for it, it wouldn't have been completely decimated after the first two strikes.
I can't tell if it really is a Cat I or not. All other categories for canon Kaiju are accurate in Breach Wars, surely Trespasser's status would follow suit. On the other hand, they may have just listed it as a Cat I because they're not sure what else to do. Size isn't the only factor that determines Category, and it's certainly possible Trespasser was a Cat I. I'd like your thoughts before I make any edit to Trespasser's page. I've listed it as a Cat I on the Breach Wars page, but not on its page yet.
Considering how Beacham commented on Trespasser's category, directly saying they don't know and that the remains were too badly damaged to be classified, I think it's probably safe to leave it as unknown. Maybe a note in "trivia" or some such. Since I don't think Breach Wars falls under "canon", I don't really think we can take the information it gives us as solid.
Yeah, Trespasser's category couldn't be determined because it emerged before the world had any proper definitions on how to gauge Kaiju signatures, there was no category system (or PPDC), and there was nothing to be gained from its remains after the fact. The fact that Beacham (and likely del Toro) left it undetermined (aside from those reasons) is pretty crucial to the justification the category system at all.
The logic behind calling it a category I is purely because it's the first Kaiju to attack humanity, and that's about it. A lot of the arguments among fans at the time of the film's release were also founded on that.
Similar arguments were and are still made with the other Kaiju that followed (Karloff, Hundun, Kaiceph, and Scissure) pre-category system as well. we've yet to actually see a legitimate Category I Kaiju in the series (if we ever see one).
Atticon's category, at the very least, is reasonable, until a higher form of media contradicts it, or doubly confirms it. But Trespasser is canonically a "No Category" Kaiju and the Breach Wars information will be noted in the inconsistencies subpage for it.
I guess Category Is were thought to have existed when the PPDC was first formed, so they added in the requirements for a Category I Kaiju. Chances are, no Kaiju would have ever met those requirements, they may have all exceeded them and the lowest Cat to emerge would have been a Cat II. I wouldn't be surprised if Trespasser was a Cat II, and all others that followed were also Cat IIs until the Cat IIIs started coming through. As you suggested, we may never seen one, because they may never exist (or have existed) in that size or toxicity.
Should I leave Trespasser as a Category I on the Breach Wars page? Not sure if it should be left as is for the Breach Wars page because that's its Cat in the game, or if I should revert it to unkown cat because that's canonically accurate.
Also, I don't have access to edit the Kaiju page, and I saw that Atticon is still listed in the "Category Unknown" section. Atticon should now be removed from that list, and put in the Cat III list.
I say leave it on the Breach Wars page and slap a "non-canon" disclaimer somewhere on it. It might not be accurate, but it's what the game lists it as and as such should be included on the relevent page.
After my second edit mentioning Valor being a Mark-6, I have been locked from that article. Valor is confirmed to be a Mark-6 in Breach Wars. Same with Murder Witch, which is still listed as Battle Witch here. Murder Witch has just been added into Breach Wars, as a new Jaeger. I want to edit the page, but I'm worried I'll just get locked out of it too. I'm trying to add a new reference (Breach Wars), but I'm still unsure of how to do that.
EDIT: I can now add references in properly, and would like to do so with Valor Omega being a Mark-6.